Here are Judith Collins’ comments marking the death, at 87, of Margaret Thatcher. Good on her for laying out her thoughts and beliefs like this. Yes, some might see them as polarised and polarising. But they’re worth a read and convey an insight.
Today, my facebook page will be devoted to Margaret Thatcher.
I well remember when she became the Prime Minister of Britain. She was the first and, to date, only woman UK Prime Minister.
It is easy to listen to the carping and vile names given her by the hard left and forget what condition Britain was in when she took over. They had 3 day working weeks, massive strikes led by USSR aligned Trade Unions, a country on the brink of collapse and torn apart by weak appeasement leadership and by malignant home-grown forces that sought to take the UK into the Soviet sphere of influence.
Her party had failed to inspire as it sought to work with the very people whose goal was the overthrow of the UK democratic system.
She dealt to, not with, the IRA. She brought a backbone to her Party not seen since Churchill.
She was highly intelligent. She was brave. She was formidable. Her work ethic was unsurpassed. She was a wife and a doting mother and grandmother. She was, despite all her achievements, an outsider.
Some years ago, I had dinner with Milton and Rose Friedman. I asked them which of all the leaders people they had worked with, they most admired. Milton Friedman was quick to say that Margaret Thatcher was the most inspirational of all.
She had the greatest hurdles to overcome and she achieved the most.
Baroness Thatcher, Rest in Peace. We have lost an icon.
— Judith Collins writing on Facebook
Let me say this: It takes guts to stand for election — to stick your head above the parapet of cosy anonymity and say ‘Vote for me. Follow me’. Both these women’s lives, Thatcher’s and Collins’s, demonstrate that courage, whether I (or anyone else) agree with their point of view or not.
This piece of vintage crack political punditry from Deborah Coddington circa 2006 Judith Collins – National Party leader in waiting? put them, Thatcher and Collins, unambiguously in the same frame:
But someone has to succeed Brash before the next election, and in the game of eeny-meeny between pretenders Gerry Brownlee, John Key, Bill English and Simon Power, the most obvious successor is being overlooked.
She’s New Zealand’s answer to Margaret Thatcher – Judith Collins, MP for Clevedon, whose achievements listed on her own website make the rest of us weak with admiration. She’s in her mid-40s, yet she’s been a director of several companies, president of the Auckland District Law Society (she has a Master of Laws with Honours), run several law firms plus a business school, provided expert tax advice, owned two restaurants, sold shoes, waitressed, nursed in a maternity hospital, married a policeman some 25 years ago and raised a son.
She is currently, you could argue, the only one in the National caucus with big kahunas, yet her wardrobe, with soft blues, lemons, or black-and-white, is straight from leading ladies’ designer Adrienne Winkelman.
Indeed, the similarities to Baroness Thatcher are remarkable. Both were born into middle-class families. Margaret Thatcher was also a barrister who specialised in tax. She was promoted early to the front bench. In 1961 she voted against the party line in favour of bringing back birching. In her third term as Prime Minister, Thatcher reformed welfare and introduced a work-for-the-dole scheme.
In New Zealand’s recent debate about inter-generational welfare dependency, Judith Collins has led the charge for reform. While I have no reason to believe Collins favours the re-introduction of corporal punishment, one can imagine her taking a theoretical stick to lazy buggers who won’t get off their butts and earn a living.
Collins recently remarked that she didn’t mind being offensive. Thatcher proclaimed to be particularly cheered if an insult was personal because it indicated her opponent had nothing political to throw at her. Collins once commented along the lines that she’d never felt she needed to prove her femininity. Thatcher famously said that being powerful was like being a lady, “if you have to tell people you are, you aren’t”.
Our Heroes are personal, and their inspiration individual and precious to each of us. I’m not going to do anything to demean Ms Collins’ expressions of respect for Mrs Thatcher*, and, fair warning: I won’t host comments here that attempt to do so.
But I am interested in (civil) comments about Ms Collins’ version of history … and the mindset revealed by these two accounts.
– P
* Well apart from a wee joke about Eva Peron, but not meant in a mean way.
PS. Crikey. Quoting Cactus Kate and Judith Collins in a 24 hour period. Time for a walk and a swim.
I knew there was no way in a really hot place that Collins was only in her mid 40s.
Looked it up – she is 54.
And that is about all i have to say on this post! 😉
That Deborah Coddington piece is undated on the NZ Herald website but it’s prior to Don Brash’s resignation/rolling which was November 2006.
That’s why I called it ‘vintage crack political punditry’ 😉 (I’ll go and make that bold.)
“Ding Dong the witch is dead” … is now soaring to number #1 … its an established fact reported by the media.
Members of the Nazi Party stood for what they believed in – unfailingly – the einsatzgruppen did what they did for similar principles … the Hutus did what they did to the tutsis based on belief … to the end of his days – leon degrelle of the french SS contingent stood for his beliefs and stuck to his guns … courageously (undeniably) as did Joachim Peiper …
Now – and i am being civil about this – i’m only quoting history and its outcomes … if you apply that logic that you have espoused … where does it lead us …
Thatcher supported openly and enthusiastically a mass murdering dictator … to the end of his days. I wonder Peter – how the disappeared would view Collins and your capitulation on conscience .. or is this a signal of more to come.
Your sensitivities are easily hijacked perhaps. I dunno personally.
“Baroness Thatcher” was a wrecker of UK society and is openly admired and set up as an icon to venerate by (some) members of this Government. Thats a telling statement of fact.
So well said Ivan.
Thanks Jackie .. what angers me most is the accusation the all the unrest in the UK was spurred by pro USSR forces … it was not – and the thatcherite/reaganite acolytes perpetuate those myths to this day.
Thatcher rescued herself by sending young men and women to die in the Falklands … a measly rock only valuable in the 19th and early 20th century as a coaling station for warships of the British empire .. when they burned coal. Those troops and sailors and airmen died in a conflict where the only valuable lesson was that an inferior force could inflict serious damage on a large modern force using such outdated items as obsolete A4 Skyhawks flying below the radar. They died for what …
I am horrified that members of our current regime … admire and regard as an object lesson such people … the UK is now a second rate backwater with a tissue paper thin veneer of being a “financial hub” … producing NOTHING PHYSICAL OR REAL. Thanks to who – thatcher and her toadies.
And Pinochet – that bloody monster – he makes the Nazis look like schoolboys because he did it openly with the winking support of the Yanks and then bloody Thatcher.
Makes me sick.
And – and i forgot to mention .. Collins quotes Milton Friedman as well.
Her view of the UK is somewhat jaundiced – but hey – she is entitled to it but after all she is in government.
quoting Milton Friedman … well – the economist who revolutionised megalomaniac dictators economics and virtually fathered the ‘disappeared’ … what a legacy for someone in this current government to tie themselves to … one day it will become akin to being “strapped to a corpse”
May it come soon
This struck me as powerful this morning …
Tributes to Baroness Thatcher – Glenda Jackson
And I loved the intensity of the Speaker John Bercow (at the end).
And i’ve rightly made a dick of myself commenting before watching the video … i pre empted what i thought would be your viewpoint.
My apologies Peter … i deserve a good whacking for presumption.
Put it down to my extreme crawling up the wall over collins rewriting of history.
So … in future i will watch or properly view what you post without acting purely on what you type …
No worries Ivan. – P
No i mean it … im embarrassed about it … but dont think it will ever stop me from persecuting you in the future.
Just you stop appearing right wing sympathetic …. or else!!!
Never liked Glenda as an actress … and it goes to show how little ex “media” types actually ever have to offer politics or society (perhaps … maybe im wrong…cough)
Here is an equally powerful speech …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnpTWKKWQ1o
Does a powerful speech change the facts …
And here is a link to the BBC’s PM programme Monday (it’s available for a week):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rqnj1#programme-broadcasts
It opens with a couple of minutes of audio highlights from Mrs Thatcher. The whole show and the commentary from all sided is very balanced, in my view. Ed Millibrand’s comments are very dignified, effectively:
“You can like or dislike her, but whatever view you take she was an extraordinary politician.”
Neil Kinnock recorded some comments not to be broadcast until after her death. They’re withering.
When asked what Mrs Thatcher could have done better, Milton Friedman (in a clip recorded in 2006, played as part of this programme) basically said “More, harder, faster” — which struck me as a particularly poor response.
But these are opinions.
– P
Milton Friedman … the damage one man and his thinking can do to subvert academia and subjugate whole populations.
Goebbels fathered the PR and Spin industries … remarkable man – but still a bloody monster in anyones playbook.
I can’t recommend Eddie Mair’s PM programme (link above) too highly.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rqnj1#programme-broadcasts
I listened live the other morning (in NZ) and am listening again now.
It is very, very good. An hour well spent.
UPDATE: Here are the Friedman and Kinnock clips from PM (BBC Radio 4)
i was in Hong Kong on business in the 90’s and i remember very clearly a Chinese Agent i dealt with stating categorically (as he prepared to move his money out of Hong Kong) that it was Thatchers lack of diplomatic skill that hastened any handover of Hong Kong to Mainland China. He along with another agent i dealt with in HK and Taiwan believed that Thatcher antagonised the Chinese into a pissing contest where they had to take over HK.
Who knows?? I know what i think.
What also has to give one pause for thought is this …
If Thatcher is an icon and an example to follow for at least two our Politicians i know of … (one being Collins and the other being a virtual borgia-like child with friends in high places …) then connect the dots …
They believe in what Maggie and Ronnie did … they believe in the sort of things Maggie and Ronnie did and they want to see them applied in this country.
Go figure …
Thatchers “carking it” could well be the unmasking of what we really have in store for us … positive!
The old tarts legacy may well be something less than she would have wanted.
I’ve added the Friedman & Kinnock audio to a comment above:
http://www.thepaepae.com/our-heroes-are-personal/29220/comment-page-1/#comment-34900
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