Cluster WHAT?

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• ivantheterrible says:

  21 November 2012 at 12:32 pm

  The voting public are highly intelligent. They will ultimately make the correct decision and be enormously happy with it. And we will all live happily ever after.

  • Peter Aranyi says:

    21 November 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Quite a good article here:

    Lessons from Labour’s turmoil

    Like politics, business is a team sport. Make sure your team is unified.
    NOVEMBER 21 2012 BY JULIAN SMITH Unlimited magazine

    With the ongoing leadership squabble between current boss David Shearer and would-be challenger David Cunliffe flaring up again at the Labour Party’s annual conference this past weekend, there is a lot for businesses to learn by watching the latest stoush.
    Like politics, business is a team sport and making sure your team is united and all working towards the same goal is important. But just like in politics, it’s not uncommon for disagreements to happen, relationships to go sour and personalities to clash.

    If you’re trying to lead a team through internal strife, there are a few things to keep in mind if you want to avoid the sort of public mess Labour found itself in.

    1. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer

    While another round of in-fighting might just be another day at the office for politicians, in business leaders need to resolve conflict quickly and move on. This can often mean accommodating people you find difficult to work with for the greater good of the organisation.

    2. Don’t air your dirty laundry in public

    As the television footage of Labour MPs bickering and badmouthing each other shows, there’s nothing like division to damage a brand. In exactly the same way that voters are turned off by in-fighting, businesses need to be careful not to turn customers off by letting internal divisions creep into the public eye.

    3. Remember how visible your business is
    ….

    … read on: http://unlimited.co.nz/unlimited.nsf/opinion/lessons-from-labours-turmoil

    (via @MarkRevington)

    —
    I know there are some who find my (for the most part) lack of blogification about Opposition politics somehow indicative of some partisan skulduggery or being ‘in the tank’ for one side or other.

    But actually, I find myself in a similar situation to Russell Brown, nicely expressed in his piece today: Triangulated by Fools

    Apart from anything else, it’s not my fight.

    – P

    • ivantheterrible says:

      21 November 2012 at 1:30 pm

      And that means … what? Not being smart … just you are so cryptic i feel like grasshopper at the feet of the master Kwang Chai Aranyi-Kain…

• ivantheterrible says:

  21 November 2012 at 1:32 pm

  I actually have only just twigged to your allusion to Cluster-Fuck …

  Very clever and oh so very apt.

  • Peter Aranyi says:

    21 November 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Ivan, I am shallow.
    I keep saying this but people don’t seem to hear it.

    All “that means” is what it says: Labour’s agonising, extended and very public working through of democratic processes (Bismarck is credited with the timeless quote sentiment: ‘There two things you don’t want to see being made: sausages and legislation’) … has nothing to do with me. viz: not my fight.

    Leader of the Opposition, as I have said before, is mostly a terrible job.

    As for my terrible language (by implication) … Cheers! The term got *thrashed* in coverage of the US elections. Perhaps I’ve been corrupted by The Daily Show?

    – P

    • ivantheterrible says:

      21 November 2012 at 1:59 pm

      You said it …i didnt … (about being shallow)

      Suggestion … why dont you just say it … instead of cross referencing everything except your wifes jockstrap to support something – that in the very end … ends up being totally lost amongst all your cross referencing and justifications of position (jeez where was i my heads spinning). You would do well in biblical exegesis … people get so confused they believe you – because why wouldnt you?

      The bismarck quote – dont quite get the connection …

      • Peter Aranyi says:

        21 November 2012 at 2:10 pm

        “Laws are like sausages. It is better not to see tham being made.” – Bismarck

        Legislation — through a democratic process — entails horse-trading and rat-swallowing in pursuit of an outcome.
        Same with Party leadership?

        re your main point: Gee. I’m terrible. (Even worse than I thought.) I enjoyed both those articles. My little footnote wasn’t the point.

        – P

        • ivantheterrible says:

          21 November 2012 at 3:13 pm

          The point is missed because you butter the bread on both sides as it were.

          Many of your posts are hard to comprehend.

          Others seem to comprehend them quite well – so i defer to their higher intelligence.

          Personally .. its much better to just say it as it is with as few words as possible …

          “those of advanced years often suffer from a marked deterioration of the recollective faculties …”

          William Shakespeare … “old men forget” (not gender inclusive i know … but hey the mustachio’ed feminist types need to be ignored every now and then…)

      • Craig says:

        21 November 2012 at 10:17 pm

        Ivan your thought around Peter’s ramblings “causing people get so confused they believe you – because why wouldn’t you?”
        Is pretty much bang on. People who quote others constantly use Analogy’s often. typically read to much. Often end up being very condescending.
        And are basically articulate BS artists. But on the bright side they are articulate, something I am far from becoming.

      • Peter Aranyi says:

        22 November 2012 at 9:09 am

        Thanks for persevering, and for your contributions in comments. – P

        • ivantheterrible says:

          23 November 2012 at 1:03 am

          I mostly greatly appreciate your viewpoint … your inclusive ‘niceness’ and treat everyone equitably streak sometimes just goes too far.

          Occasionally people need a good bloody kick in the balls (and or whatever the female equivalent is … although some ladies have a set of their own perhaps… but i digress…again…)

          you are always seeing everyone elses point of view … its frustrating to a polemicist like me …