from New Oxford American Dictionary (graphic by Peter Aranyi)
Despite what some may suspect, I’ve never been big on schadenfreude and, as noted, I despise grave-dancing.
So … I feel some concern for the collateral damage inflicted as it seems pretty clear the wheels are falling off the Shaun Stenning wagon train. In the last few days several of his former business partners, associates and [allegedly] unpaid contractors — as well as numerous buyers of his ‘products’ have come out (on a Facebook anti-Fan page) — openly declaiming the silver-tongued spruiker in damning terms …
Ian Naylor:
The guy [Shaun Stenning] is an arsehole and a pathological liar, and I’m ashamed to have been in business with him. He rips off friends, customers and partners alike, no one is safe.
Vince Tan:
This is a public notice of my disassociation with Shaun Stenning and his company. Although we are not business partner, but I’ve been helping him to do some co-presenting in events and help out in some products. Truth is I’ve been dedicating a lot of my time and money over last 9 months believing that it would be for a higher purpose but ended up being in a worse situation than before knowing Shaun. I trusted Shaun and have never chase him for payment and ended up never getting paid from any events, seminar or products that I was involved with him. I am responsible for my own misjudgment and although I do not like to make such public statement but this has finally finally hit the limit of my patience. Alex Leow was right, I really don’t like to rant out these things, but enough is enough.
Maggie Vickers:
Couldn’t agree more about the liar statement – he [Shaun Stenning] certainly has made statements to me that have been blatant lies!! Very pleased I’m not working with the guy any more. … About time someone started going public about this guy. He owes me for 3 months work. I signed a contract with him and a company that ASIC doesn’t seem to have any record of… interesting!
Unlike these former associates, I’ve never met Shaun Stenning, let alone worked with him. So I haven’t had the um, opportunity to be dazzled by his charm. I made my judgements purely on the marketing material he sprayed around the web (and the fulsome and breathless endorsements from spruikers Dean Letfus and Steve pool-of-sharks [?] Goodey — a dead giveaway from my POV) and his hilarious semi-literate bush lawyer threats more than a year ago … which I considered was ‘about time someone started going public about this guy’.* (If not earlier, but I hadn’t heard of him.)
I’m not a lawyer, but it seems to me each of the ‘anti-testimonials’ above is a genuine comment or honest opinion based on personal experience.
Update: * I hope this doesn’t make me sound like a dork. I read this comment by Jason Jones (Salty Droid) who said about ‘personal development’ spruiker James Arthur Ray (on trial for manslaughter in Arizona as I write this) …
… But whatever :: I wish I would have gone to the Harmonic Wealth Weekend held in Chicago July of 2009 and hit James Ray over the head with a chair … but I didn’t. I wish I had started writing about James Ray a year earlier … but I hadn’t. These horrors not my fault either. Only one person could have prevented these deaths … and he didn’t.
… and I know how he feels.
– P
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Thursday at 6:14pm
This guy…scammed his friends while acting like they were his second families, all those staged tears at the end of his “performances” in Phuket events, Next Wave Event etc really pissed me off.
Like Maggie, I worked for Shaun and he owes me 3 months money too. None of his word is truth. He keeps breaking promises.
Personally, I think his “good name” should be permanently seal in the internet to make sure no more victim. Of course I want my money back but I even more eager to make him disappear from the IM industry, forever.
I can still recieve his email selling IM products thur his younger brother Matt. Shame on him and his brother.
Shaun wasn’t in this alone. One of his prominent partners, Vince Tan, is equally responsible. It’s a ironic to see him making a public announcement to disassociate from Shaun only now, when before this Vince was involved with him in several projects and even shared the stage together.
Vince had also been ripping off students by charging thousands of dollars for a mere ‘username and password’ to old products, and always disappear after making the sale thus becoming hard to reach.
While the whole fiesta is on Shaun now, better keep your eyes on Vince Tan too. There’s a good reason why both of them were working together in the first place.
T Chua
[Comment: Thanks for your comment. Really? Vince Tan’s statement quoted above says they weren’t partners… Was Vince involved in twalk? Or snipr? Or are you referring to another product that they sold as partners? – Peter ]
Vince Tan sells something where his support is crap!
After you are sold the products, you can forget about him ever replying to you…
Hi Peter, it’s a blatant lie. Vince and Shaun have been involved in many projects together and also spoke for the same event like Next Wave Event. Just google their names together for proof. So Vince calling him a ‘non business partner’ it’s like saying we are not married but have intimate relationship and kids together. hope my analogy is understood. That’s how I got to know their names in Internet Marketing and at first, I was impressed. It wasn’t easy for me to say this and even when I felt about it, I didn’t talk about it because I thought maybe I’m just isolated case. But seems not.
Now that Shaun has been called out, I think his partner Vince should be called out too. It’s funny he say he not business partner with Shaun anymore now.
connedby – did you also enroll into the same program I am for Vince? That was what happened to me. At first I thought because he got students from other countries so he was busy, but what if it’s an easier way for him to disappear actually? Would be good if we keep in touch and see if other students got ripped off as well. Both Shaun and Vince should go down together.
Even if Vince says “he is busy” that does NOT entitle him to totally ignore his clients once he take their money. That is why he always talk about “life time support” because there is No Support!
He can even make it 9 LIFETIMES support too, if he wants to!
This guy should also be highlighted in the facebook NOT A FAN OF SHAUN STENNING THE CON ARTIST because he was and still is, one of them..
Hi Peter,
I’ve been reading your blogs with interest. Here’s an update that may be of interest to your readers:
I just messaged on FB with Dean Letfus about Mastermind as payments of Mastermind (monthly charges on a payment plan) started to go through his company Massive Action a few months ago.
Let’s keep each other posted and hope we all come out stronger as a result of this.
[Comment: Thanks for sharing this. I agree, communication and information sharing at this time is important. – Peter ]
So base on D.Leftus msg here “… is hideous situation man, but keen to minimise people’s lossses.”…. is he saying he is now also disconnected to S.Stenning? That he is the good guy (cos he is MINIMIZING other people’s losses) and that SS is alone in this?
If it is, then it is really sad. Cos D.Leftus and Shaun Stenning not too long ago tells us, infact he tells everyone that Dean is his mentor, his father figure in being a better person, a better businessman, etc.
I agree, it’s disillusioning.
Situations like that make me ask: Which is it? Insincere or shallow?
(When I was covering politics the cliché question we asked was: ‘Which is it: Corruption or incompetence?’) – P
Hi..look at this .another seminar in Malaysia from Success Resources: www.[domain snipped]
[Comment: No offence, but we don’t need to send a link there do we? – Peter]
Notice the “youngest speaker In GIS” and his partner in Mastermind program are not invited?
Thanks goodness…the amount of harm to newbies is substantially reduced.
Let’s boycott future Success Resources events to make them aware of their social responsibility not to invite spruikers like Shauna, Matt or Vince Tan anymore