What a difference a few percentage points in the polls makes.
I’ve talked before about the intense, irrational personal hatred and enmity evinced by some in the National Party ‘family’ towards their former star MP Winston Peters. It is breathtaking to observe its vehemence. They bear grudges. Intensely.
Scratch some outwardly civilized, even quite-reasonable-on-other-issues Nats about Peters and you trigger an outpouring of hot yellow purulent contempt for the former Tauranga MP. In some cases, the reaction seems close to some sort of Pentecostal frenzy, or an epileptic fit.
They HATE him.
And now, with Peters’ star rising in the pre-election opinion polls, some indicating his NZ First Party on the cusp of possibly returning to Parliament, National’s attack dogs, trojans and sympathizers in branches of the media (talkback radio particularly) are squawking for all they’re worth: desperately spouting personal denigration, abuse and pointedly raising ‘questions’ about this controversial politician. Timing is everything.
I’m all for free and open debate, and ‘savvy’ observers letting us know what they think and relating issues from the past (gosh, it’s what I aim to do here at ThePaepae.com) but some of what passes for ‘commentary’ about Winston Peters is nothing more than deliberate, fixated sledging of an experienced politician, former cabinet minister and deputy prime minister, a man who, any way you look at it, speaks for thousands of New Zealanders. His critics may have no personal respect for Winston Peters, but in my opinion they owe a duty of fairness to him and to those he represents.
National Party re-animated zombie and convicted criminal Cameron Slater has, in the space of a few days, gone from a position of ‘we do not speak of evil’ (meaning Peters) to micturating a stream of arguably defamatory ‘blog posts’ directing the foulest of personal abuse at Peters — just as he’s done with other National Party ‘enemies’ with whom he becomes fixated. (Cameron looks to me like someone with a little too much time on their hands. Perhaps he could sweep some leaves, trim some trees or water-blast his deck … now that he doesn’t have to train to lose a bike race.)
Convicted criminal Cameron Slater delivers ‘comments’ (retch) that, if not defamatory, are personally denigrating, abusive and insulting (shrieking all the while that National’s enemies Labour and the Greens are ‘nasty’. Such rich irony).
Like a dead rat stinking and rotting in a wall, convicted criminal Cameron Slater’s deceptive and one-eyed ‘reports’ (vomit) lower the tone of political discourse around him to something worse than goofy drunken sledging. He tells people he’s ‘mellowed’, and maybe that’s true, maybe it’s just pre-election jitters at work, but what he’s been writing lately (in my personal view) is inaccurate and vile, a lot of it.
Most of the time what he says doesn’t matter. That’s probably true about this time too, since, his attempted self-aggrandising fantasy life aside, convicted criminal Cameron Slater blows his dog whistle mainly to his racist, homophobic, Tory in-crowd. Although his (no other word for it:) bullying attempts to pick a fight/entrap politicians on Twitter strike me as ‘off ‘in a different way. He’s a stalker, but then, hasn’t social media made all of us that way, a little bit?
Convicted criminal Cameron Slater doesn’t easily tolerate opposing views, as we have seen. That’s a bad sign, in my opinion.
Then there’s his transparent sanctimonious double standard. One small example: emoting horror stricken outrage over ‘The rich deserve more’ stickers on National campaign hoardings but describing it as ‘funny campaign graffiti’ when a Labour MP’s billboards are defaced with the word ‘cock’ in the same manner.
I know some who write off convicted criminal Cameron Slater as a reactionary, clichéd, mindless, bought-and-paid for prejudiced Tory half-wit/robot with serious credibility issues … not enhanced by his multiple convictions for wantonly breaching court name suppression orders. I’ve never thought of him that way, although I agree the name suppression stuff was stupid of him, and there’s no question the guy is devious, publishes half-truths and pursues his vendetta against National’s enemies in a deceitful way.
But I have to say, his reflexive vomit on Peters, coupled with his obvious irrational and stupid hatred for Trevor Mallard — two thorns in the National Party’s side over many years — and the misleading, inaccurate hyperbolic crap he’s recently promulgated about the ‘Greens’ makes me question my previous favorable assessment.
Dedicated to James Meager.
– P
Whenever I peruse Blogs/Comment pages, discussion streams on line I find it fascinating and sometimes wonder why I bother.
I will try and explain.
This topic here at the moment is extremely typical, Politics. Some people never consider the other side of the coin. When the arguments end up being exactly the same for both sides I know its become personal and they are not listening.
If you are doubting this. I am yet to see a negative thing said about Labour or any other party than National from certain people on this site. No they jump on this Banks Key conversation treating it like its the most disgusting thing ever see or heard, and also its the only topical leverage they have against Key and are running with it too the Moon. embarrassing.
This entry is about Winston making a run towards the end of this campaign and National are worried, is an example. Its just anti Key supporters finding discussion points that either make them feel better about oppositions chances or are encourage National supporters to be worried. From where I am sitting Peter’s angle and Ivan’s for that matter is they don’t like National. Thats Fine. Ivan has given his view of Key as an untrustworthy being. Which compared to Winston is just a joke. Winston is a glorified Car Salesman and over time the public learnt this he is dodgy with a Capital D. Any experienced PM can come in at the end after most of their mistakes have been forgotten and start grandstanding the people in Power. Look people do it right here on this blog. 🙂
Also National are not worried about Winston, Peter you just want them to be, and just because some headline somewhere says so. Its BS. How do I know this Key stood up a year ago and said I am not working with Mr Peters. he did not have to say this, it was a risk saying this but Key does not trust him Tauranga in the end did not trust him. most of NZ does not trust him. Hes no risk. Hes very good at talking around issues grandstanding people and general waffling. That just screams BS.
Hi Craig. This:
“When the arguments end up being exactly the same for both sides I know its become personal and they are not listening.”
… is an astute comment. Cheers. It reminds me of the saying: Never argue with an idiot. People watching might not be able to tell the difference.
This:
Its just anti Key supporters finding discussion points that either make them feel better about oppositions chances or are encourage National supporters to be worried.
… misses.
No, today’s post is just what it looks like — some thoughts provoked by the sudden rush of vitriol and spite emanating from sections of the commentariat that struck me as based on enmity and not much else.
I interviewed Winston Peters yesterday about what he calls ‘character assassination”right on cue’ — clear attempts by his political enemies to kneecap him with smears. That’s how it looks.
And truly, over the last week or so I’ve genuinely been struck by the stridency of the attacks aimed at him, now that he looks like he might be back in the hunt.
Ivan and I aren’t soul mates, either BTW, although as I do with you, I respect his right to express an opinion, so long as it doesn’t slide into abuse (judged by my imperfect standards).
I’ve been impressed with John Key’s political skills and said so.
http://www.thepaepae.com/newly-political-peter-leitch-timing-is-everything/19023/comment-page-1/#comment-11516
Opinions. You gotta love ’em.
– P
Part of me would like National to loose this election. And then people will see how poor stumbling bumbling Goof really is and how National have done a good job.
But then I realise. They will blindly forget the past and blindly support whoever their team is. Brother I am depressed.
I will vote National no question, do I always vote National No. I vote for whomever is going to do the best for myself and this country.
A stance I feel only about 40% of people take.
As we’ve discussed before,* my view is that a National return to power in 2011 is the most likely outcome … one term governments being a rarity in NZ … and to be fair, the Key/Joyce Punch and Judy show has been for the most part competently politically managed.
* http://www.thepaepae.com/just-the-sort-of-endorsement-a-political-journalist-doesnt-need/20171/comment-page-1/#comment-12116
You say you’re depressed by the blind tribalism.
I usually enjoy politics as a sport — it’s one team’s turn to win, then another’s and that’s OK … but after a while I feel nauseated by the ghastly inauthenticity of the sectarian antics of Party loyalists like those I refer to above.
When I see someone engaging in shabby, venal grasping for ‘power’ and influence, or engaging in ‘the politics of personal destruction’, I think it should almost disqualify them
… but of course, that’s not how democracy works.
Just as well. – P
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